Are you ready to jump into real estate investing, but don’t believe you can find deals in today’s hot market? In this episode, we sit down with multifamily expert Andrew Cushman, who’s actively doing deals in today’s market — and turning big profits. In this show, Andrew explains how he’s finding deals, what metrics he uses to qualify them, where he’s buying today, and what his secret tricks are for finding the “overlooked opportunities” most investors miss — including how he found an amazing deal in the “trash can” for bad deals!

You’ll love hearing how Andrew creates millions of dollars in equity and builds relationships with deal-finders so that they bring him the best deals first. Be sure to download this episode and share it with your friends, so you, too, can master the secrets that the pros are using to snag killer deals!

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In This Episode We Cover:

• Andrew’s backstory
• How to make deals rather than find them
• The ABCD neighborhoods — what are they?
• What specific properties Andrew is looking for
• His effective screening criteria for finding properties
• An in-depth story on one deal
• Net operating income (NOI)
• Understanding how properties are valued
• Challenges Andrew faced over the years
• Finding great contractors
• Andrew’s many rental property units
• And SO much more!

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• “The person who wants it the most, loses.” (Tweet This!)
• “You can completely destroy an investment with the wrong people managing it.” (Tweet This!)
• “Don’t wait to buy Real estate. Instead, buy real estate and wait.” (Tweet This!)
• “The best way to spot a great deal is to look at 99 bad ones.” (Tweet This!)

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Jim Collins has literally done it all. From busboy, produce, clerk, and gas station attendant, to ad agency founder, sales trainer, radio co-host, and publisher. He is a prolific world traveler, having visited more than 30 countries on five continents via motorcycle, car, train, plane, boat—and even elephant.

Jim has lived a very good life. And along the way, Jim has learned that money is a tool that can offer the freedom to live the life you want to live.

He’s also figured out that there is a very simple path to wealth. While you can make money picking individual stocks, the index fund is a very easy way to grow your wealth in the stock market without spending time researching companies.

This episode truly is the show for anyone who has money or wants to have more.

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In This Episode We Cover:

• Jim’s background
• How he discovered the FI concept
• The position of power in his life, and how he made bolder choices
• How he transitioned into financial business
• How he was able to achieve high savings rate
• Achieving FI, picking individual stocks, and actively managing funds
• Separating your emotions from your investments
• Four things you need to move toward FI
• The key things to remember when investing in an index fund
• What self-cleansing means
• His timeline for investing in index funds
• Buying bond market index funds
• His take on the “Bloodbath on the Wall Street” headline
• Strategy for getting into the market
• Ways to invest in the stock market
• And SO much more!

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• “It’s not a matter of choosing between something that is terrible and something that is great. It is choosing between something that does work and can work depending on how skilled you are at it.” (Tweet This!)
• “Stocks are never gonna love you back.” (Tweet This!)
• “The longer the time period you hold, the more statically certain you can get.” (Tweet This!)

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I was talking to my buddy and co-worker Craig Curelop the other night. It was about 7:00 p.m., and we were having one of our not-infrequent discussions about financial freedom late after work. As usual, Craig was cooking dinner at the office after his workout. I suspect that he was cooking here in an effort to save money on electricity that he’d otherwise have to use to cook at home (I can’t even tell if I’m joking about that or not). I was just here late, trying to catch up on emails.

For some time, we’d been having a debate about his approach to attaining early financial freedom. I was claiming that Craig goes too far in his pursuit of financial freedom. Craig was politely dismissing my claim and insisting that he was perfectly happy with his situation.

Craig’s Obsession with Financial Freedom

Now, I think I have some good reasons to think that Craig is going pretty hardcore in pursuit of early financial freedom. He does a LOT.

Craig house hacks in a house that is eerily similar to the property I first bought back in 2014—my first house hack. His home is just a few blocks away from my property, but a bit newer and nicer. Craig, however, gets a far better financial return from his investment than I did and will likely do better with his investment than me over time, even though I bought an investment that has better numbers as a traditional rental property. How does he do this? Simple—he rents out his bedroom on Airbnb and sleeps on the futon in the living room!

Craig bikes to work every day. Thirty degrees and snowing like it is on the day I write this? Craig is still on his bike. Craig rents out his car on Turo, netting positive every month on vehicle expenses.

Craig does not eat sugar. Craig does not consume alcohol. Craig is involved in extra-curriculars like Toastmasters in an effort to constantly improve himself. Craig reads incessantly. Craig hang-dries his clothes to save money on electricity. Craig gets up at 5:30 a.m. each morning to pursue his goals. Craig meets investors and potential contacts multiple times per week.

Craig has literally optimized almost every part of his life in pursuit of early financial freedom.

Is this too much? I certainly thought so at first—and I told him so. I thought so until our conversation the other night, when I suddenly remembered what I did to jumpstart my journey to financial freedom.

Related: 7 Daily Habits of Real Estate Investors Who Seek Financial Freedom

My Obsession with Financial Freedom

See, when I got started on this journey, the term “house hacking” (but certainly not the concept, which has been around forever) had just been invented by Brandon Turner in this article. The concept of biking to work was completely foreign to me. In fact, every single person I had ever even heard of (excluding the 40-year-old virgin) drove to work or took public transit. Riding a bike had just had not presented itself as an option until I began reading a blog called Mr. Money Mustache (one of my favorite blogs of all time).

In spite of friends and family who thought I was crazy, I bought a house hack. I took this “Mr. Money Mustache” guy’s advice and biked to work. I read over 100 personal finance, business, psychology, and career-related books. I quit a stable, hard-earned job with middling corporate opportunity to pursue a highly risky job at a startup. I networked with investors all over the city. I tried to get up early to pursue a version of the Miracle Morning even though I hated it and am a night owl. I cooked all of my own meals and almost never consumed anything that even approached unhealthy. I kept a “daily log.” I even hung dry my laundry instead of installing a dryer. I did this for years. I still do much of this.

I don’t regret it one bit. In fact, looking back, I wish I’d been more like Craig—more obsessed, more (not less) productive.

You Don’t Have to Be Perfect Forever!

The reason I initially thought that Craig was doing too much was that I am currently growing soft. Nowadays, I still house hack. I bike to work, but much less frequently, and often on a custom built e-bike that I put together over the summer that is pretty awesome. This is partly due to a nasty foot injury—I suspect I will resume with biking more regularly on the road bike as the foot continues to improve and the weather gets nicer in the spring of 2018. I cook less and eat out a few times per month. I love Chinese food and am willing to splurge on it now a bit. I enjoy dates at casual restaurants with my girlfriend. I have a dryer.

I still spend very little compared with your average American, but it’s creeping up a bit.

I sometimes forget that I needed to do the hardcore things that Craig is currently doing to get where I am. Are they things that I want to do for the next 50 years? Are they things that I’m even still doing today?

No, not all of them.

Am I proud that I did them and happy that they contributed to my current position?

Absolutely.

But the point of all of this is that I can afford to bring some luxuries back into my life now. I have enough passive income to purchase some of these things and still get ahead. And while my passive income more than pays for my lifestyle as things stand, it is not yet enough to comfortably fund the life I could see myself wanting in the future—a life that will involve fewer still of these optimizations.

As my portfolio continues to grow over the next few years, I see a more permanent house in my future. I see potential pets. I see a very nice, large kitchen and a significantly improved bathroom in a future residence compared to my present situation. I see some luxuries that I’d truly enjoy, like maybe a backyard or garage filled with home gym equipment (purchased second-hand via Craigslist, of course). I see myself gradually approaching a lifestyle that anyone would call middle or upper-middle class.

But I’ll be able to live that lifestyle at extremely low cost, with minimal waste, and fund it entirely with a surplus from real estate cash flow. This result will unfold gradually, as I consistently increase my passive income in the coming years. And this is possible solely because of the optimization that I implemented in the past and am continuing to ride in the present.

I’m starting to get soft, and I may well continue to soften in the future. To plan on living an entire life of perfect optimization would defeat the purpose of pursuing financial freedom. I seek bit by bit to build the exact life I want—and to only increase my standard of living in proportion to my passive income—and never in excess to the point where I will grow fat and lazy.

I’m willing to go without some of the things I eventually aspire to in order to make that dream a reality.

Craig has a similar vision. Craig will not be living on a futon forever. As his wealth grows, as he eliminates his student loans, and as these choices become less and less meaningful to his financial position, I am certain that Craig will cool it a bit.

Related: The Surprisingly Simple “Secret” to Financial Freedom Most 9 to 5-ers Overlook

Once you are at a point where you feel that you can ease off the gas pedal, do it. Do it in certain areas that are most meaningful to you. As your passive income increases and covers your living expenses you can stop making the “sacrifices” that everyone thinks Craig and I are making!

But What About Living in the Present?

Notice, however, that neither Craig nor I give up or gave up certain things that are universally accepted as important to a well-lived life. Like travel. Like nights out with friends. Like attending sporting events. Like visiting family. Like attending life events of those we are close with. Like volunteering in the community. Those are the things we associate with living.

Craig does not go too far in his pursuit of early financial freedom. Craig is one of the healthiest, most well-adjusted folks I know. In spite of his unforgivable love of Boston sports teams, including the New England Patriots, he is a genuinely funny guy, a hard worker, and has friends who come to visit him from all over the country. Craig is doing this whole thing exactly right and will enjoy experiences comparable to every other 20-something in Denver over the next few years, based on his interests. The only real differences between him and the rest of the pack are that he will arrive where he is going on his bicycle, and he will rest his head at night on a futon instead of in a bedroom. He says these things do not affect his happiness. And I believe him. How could they?

I believe that Craig has some of the highest odds of anyone I know of achieving a $1,000,000 net worth by the age of 30. You might look at Craig and think, “That’s crazy – I could never do what he does and sleep on the couch while renting out my bed!” But I challenge you to see things from the other perspective—from Craig’s perspective and mine.

Is it crazy to build that much wealth that early in life? Is it crazy to enjoy the same recreational activities as your peers, yet come out way ahead financially? Is it crazy to create a life that is healthier, more fun, costs less, and sets you up for greater career success or income generation? Is Craig crazy? Am I crazy?

Or is everyone else crazy?

You Need to Get Obsessed with Optimizing Your Life, Too!

Almost every day since I started optimizing my life, my life has gotten better. I’ve become healthier, wealthier, stronger, happier, a better skier, a better rugby player, and more in tune with my family. I’ve experienced career accomplishments. I’ve since met a wonderful girl who I’ve dated for a year and half and love very much, and I have what I consider to be a pretty good, fun-filled life.

I believe that this progression of events is not unique to Craig and me. Almost everyone I know who has gone on to achieve financial freedom at an extremely early age, who has accumulated a large amount of wealth in a short period of time, or who has started a successful business has done some version of aggressive, all-out optimization in pursuit of their goals.

Maybe successful folks didn’t sleep on a futon or even house hack. But you can be sure that they devote outsized time, in the beginning, to getting some kind of venture off the ground. You can be sure that they earn more than they spend—by a lot. You can be sure that they become obsessed with the success of the venture they’re involved in. Every blogger on this site is obsessed with their craft. They study it relentlessly for years. You need to develop the same healthy obsession with your goals as well.

No one has come to me and said they regret these types of choices. No one regrets giving a worthy goal their best efforts. And even if they do, in most cases, choices like these are easily reversible. You can always stop reading, stop networking, stop biking, and stop house hacking if you decide it’s not for you. Craig can simply stop listing his room on Airbnb tomorrow if he wants and live at a lower cost than almost every American, in the heart of an expensive city at that!

Yes, folks can build a million-dollar net worth as middle-class wage earners over a period of decades. That’s not hard and can be achieved automatically, with merely sane spending habits, buying a reasonable home, and contributing to a 401(k). I’m not talking about achieving this result. I don’t write for folks looking to achieve this result. I seek to help people trying to achieve early financial freedom in a fraction of that time.

And to do that, you need to become obsessed. And if you truly want to give yourself the best chance at achieving this goal rapidly, you need to optimize with a passion and zeal.

The part of the journey that Craig is currently in is the part that so many more of you readers need to undergo to truly jumpstart your journey to financial freedom. This should be the fun part. It’s where you really make the changes necessary to become successful. I’ve met dozens of people who are undertaking this journey and house hacking (yes, with kids) in the bottom units of up/down duplexes. I’ve met people who have begun biking to work. I’ve met people who read relentlessly or who take action day after day in pursuit of success with their career or side hustle. For the first time in years, many of them are excited to take on life. They identify the correct opportunity, the opportunity that offers them a real shot at achieving their goals, and they pursue it 100 percent, with their best efforts, for years.

Don’t mistake these folks for the outliers. The folks who achieve financial freedom rapidly without making optimized choices in almost every area of life—choices that increase their wealth, productivity, and happiness—are the exception, not the rule.

Conclusion

Look, I totally understand that Craig’s approach—or even my approach—may not be something that you want for your entire life. Frankly, I DO NOT plan to house hack in perpetuity, and I am reasonably sure that at some point Craig will move on from his futon to a bed, then a house that he eventually wants to reside in semi-permanently.

The whole point of this is not to live like this forever. It is to do it as long as necessary to achieve your goals. The point is to create and execute a plan to create the life you want and then live that life exactly as you want, as the person in nearly complete control, forever after. And along the way, you’ll probably find that many of these “sacrifices” are actually all-around improvements in your day and lifestyle!

I’m not trying to convince you to live on a futon. I’m trying to tell you that doing so will not impact your happiness if you go in with the right mindset. And that it is not and should not be a permanent state of affairs. I’m trying to tell you that choices like that are the ones that increase your odds of accumulating money and freeing up time with which to pursue big income and investment opportunities unavailable to folks with tiny savings rates and no free time.

You may think that I’m strange for biking to work, making my own meals, and living in a house hack. You may think Craig is strange for renting out his bed and car, sleeping on a futon, and biking to work. But to us, this life is better than an alternative that involves long commutes, being handcuffed to a mortgage, and engaging in unhealthy or unproductive behaviors that don’t produce results or fond memories! And in five, 10, or 20 years, the folks who make choices like this are more likely than not to be multimillionaires with multiple properties and multiple sources of income.

Dave Ramsey famously says, “Live like no else now so later you can live like no one else.” The implication of this is that you have to give up happiness and sacrifice now to live the life of your dreams later. This is not how I have experienced things. Life was better immediately after making the choice to optimize my lifestyle around my goals, AND it continually improves as I reap the financial, career, health, and relationship results of those choices. I feel good about where I’ve been, where I am, and where I’m going. You can live better than everyone else now, in an extraordinarily low-cost, productive, and impactful manner, AND live like no one else later.

I made the mistake of thinking that Craig was going too far in pursuit of financial freedom. But he can and should go farther and faster if he can and will continue to love his life. Let me state it all again: He enjoys it. And he should enjoy it. He is becoming healthier, wealthier, happier, and more self-confident with each passing day, week, month, and year. I too have enjoyed it and will continue to enjoy it. You should enjoy it, too.

I honestly believe that those of us who pursue early financial freedom and make the optimizations necessary to make that a reality experience a better life in the interim while pursuing it, a better life approaching Financial Freedom, and a better life after achieving financial freedom. There is no “sacrifice” in this way of life. The “improvements” you make to your life may have positive effects immediately and will likely only continue to grow.

I give you permission to choose the healthy, wealthy, happy path that you know will leave you better off when its all said and done. And once you decide to go for it, optimize for happiness, health, and wealth without apology.

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