{"id":4801,"date":"2023-11-06T01:10:20","date_gmt":"2023-11-06T01:10:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/frankbuysphilly.com\/is-a-stack-of-cash-better-than-slow-but-steady-returns-a-look-at-flipping-and-the-brrrr-method\/"},"modified":"2023-11-06T01:10:20","modified_gmt":"2023-11-06T01:10:20","slug":"is-a-stack-of-cash-better-than-slow-but-steady-returns-a-look-at-flipping-and-the-brrrr-method","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/frankbuysphilly.com\/is-a-stack-of-cash-better-than-slow-but-steady-returns-a-look-at-flipping-and-the-brrrr-method\/","title":{"rendered":"Is a Stack of Cash Better Than Slow But Steady Returns? A Look at Flipping and the BRRRR Method"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div :class=\"{ 'hidden': $store.proContent.showFullPrompt() }\">\n<section class=\"px-4 relative border border-slate-200 mobile-toc lg:hidden\" x-data=\"{open:false}\">\n<button x-on:click=\"open = !open\" class=\"flex items-center gap-4 my-2 border-none w-full\"><br \/>\n<svg xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"h-6 w-6\" fill=\"none\" viewbox=\"0 0 24 24\" stroke=\"currentColor\" stroke-width=\"2\"><path stroke-linecap=\"round\" stroke-linejoin=\"round\" d=\"M4 8h16M4 16h16\"\/><\/svg><\/p>\n<p class=\"font-semibold text-slate-800 text-base m-0 js-toc-ignore\">In this article<\/p>\n<p><\/button><\/p>\n<\/section>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">You\u2019ve asked yourself this before, and we all have. It\u2019s the age-old question: Is a stack of cash today better than a steady but smaller stream of income?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Investors have struggled with this concept forever, and the\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/forums\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">BiggerPockets forums<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0show evidence of that. Daily, investors post, wondering if cashing in their equity is the best play or if they should play the long game.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">There truly isn\u2019t a wrong answer, though I\u2019ll admit, I am quite biased, especially after years of conversations with chronic flippers who are filled with regret about not having kept some of their projects.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">A Look at BRRRR vs. Flipping<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/guides\/brrrr-method\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">BRRRR<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0and\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/guides\/how-to-flip-houses\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">flips<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0are really two sides of the same coin\u2014the real estate investing coin. Of course, much of this is market- and property-specific, but the main differences are that with flips, you might spend a little more on higher-end finishes than you would a BRRRR.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Either way, you are forcing\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/what-is-home-equity\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">equity<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0in your property and addressing deferred maintenance and upgrades in the hopes of profiting at some point. If you plan to flip and are in a B neighborhood, maybe you spring for the stone counters and tile accent wall in the bathroom. If you are going to rent in a B neighborhood, maybe those upgrades are unnecessary. Besides, if you rent the property for 10 years, you can always add those upgrades later if and when you decide to sell.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Yes, sure, the BRRRR, if done properly, will allow you a trickle of funds indefinitely, whereas a flip is once and done. However, at the end of the day, they\u2019re both strategies for quick(er) cash and (hopefully) leverage. You are forcing equity and hoping to leverage that profit.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">How to Decide<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">So, how do you decide to sell or keep the property? Here are some factors to consider.<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The cash flow<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">First, my rule of thumb is that an ideal BRRRR will have you all in at 75% or less of after-repair value (<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/estimate-arv\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">ARV<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">). If you can create at least 25% equity, you should be able to\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/guides\/how-to-refinance-your-mortgage\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">refinance<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0the property and get close to 100% of your money back out.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">It doesn\u2019t always mean that you should sell if you have less, but you will likely leave some of your own cash in the deal. I\u2019ve done that many times before and been perfectly happy with the results\u2014but I planned on this as a possibility going in. Some people won\u2019t keep a property if they have to leave any cash in it. That\u2019s not a dealbreaker for me, and unless you have unique circumstances, it shouldn\u2019t be the only criteria you consider either.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">If you can BRRRR a property and it will\u00a0<\/span><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">more\u00a0<\/span><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">than pay for itself every month, that\u2019s a good start to deciding if you should keep it. The monthly cash flow that you are willing to accept is totally up to you, but my market is an aggressively appreciating market, and I\u2019m happy to ride that wave if someone else is footing the bill, even if I\u2019m not making much every month.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">If you are in a C area, you\u2019ll need decent cash flow to weather the inevitable storms that come from holding those properties. If you are seeing regular, reasonable appreciation and rent increases, it should be less important that you fully cash out or that the property performs like a dream right away. That property will become more efficient over time and can eventually become your cash cow.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">If you are in a market that traditionally sees lower appreciation, say the Midwest or parts of the South, selling might be a better option. This is because the velocity of the equity you have could be put to better use in another project (this is the leverage piece I mentioned).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">If rents average only 2% increases every year, and appreciation is historically similar, or barely keeping up with inflation, you can and should take that cash and do much better in many other ways than keeping it in a property and renting it out. Just keep in mind that you need to budget for the taxes you\u2019ll pay on that income.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I find it fascinating, and it really speaks to how dynamic real estate investing can be, that there are so many people doing\u00a0<\/span><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">one\u00a0<\/span><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">thing\u2014and doing it really well. However, they have very limited knowledge of other types of investing within real estate, as well as the pros and cons of each.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">I\u2019m talking about chronic flippers. I\u2019ve lost count of the number of professional and truly talented flippers who have never kept a single property as a rental.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The taxes<\/span><\/h3>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">In addition, I know many people who have been writing checks to the IRS for hundreds of thousands of dollars every year because of how much they\u2019ve \u201ckilled it\u201d flipping houses. Fast-forward a few years, and they learn about tax strategy and cost segregation, and suddenly, CoC return when holding a rental doesn\u2019t seem anywhere as important as the tax benefits of those paper losses.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Flipping is extremely active income\u2014both literally and figuratively. If you aren\u2019t buying, renovating, and selling properties, you aren\u2019t making money. You are constantly active, and it can be stressful to let up on the gas. The IRS sees it exactly the same way\u2014as an earned income\/wage\u2014and you\u2019ll be taxed as such.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">It might seem like I am saying that flipping houses isn\u2019t a good idea, which is absolutely not true. If done correctly, there\u2019s not really a much better way to build immediate capital, especially as you are starting out. Also, there are many properties that make for fantastic flips that would be terrible rentals.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">There\u2019s absolutely a time and place for flipping houses. Our team works with lots of flippers, both bringing them deals and buying them as\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/myths-of-turnkey-investing\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">turnkey<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0rentals once they are done.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">That being said, I think it\u2019s fair to say that everyone reading this article is on BP because they are looking for\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/money-446\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">FIRE<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0and\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/raking-in-passive-returns-in-real-estate-without-volatility\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">passive income<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">. Flipping houses is, and can be, a stepping stone on that path, but it\u2019s not the destination.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">One of the biggest challenges for newbies is wrapping their heads around the\u00a0<\/span><a class=\"editor-rtfLink\" href=\"https:\/\/www.biggerpockets.com\/blog\/real-estate-taxes-deductions\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">tax benefits<\/span><\/a><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">\u00a0of buy-and-hold investing. It can truly be life-changing, and it\u2019s nearly impossible to see or understand until you experience it. If you are strictly flipping homes, you\u2019ll never see those tax benefits and are actually creating a higher tax liability for yourself.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Don\u2019t get me wrong\u2014paying a bunch of taxes because you made a boatload of money is definitely not a\u00a0<\/span><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">bad\u00a0<\/span><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">thing. But isn\u2019t paying little to no taxes\u00a0<\/span><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">and\u00a0<\/span><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">making a bunch of money objectively better?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">By considering a BRRRR on flips where it might make sense, you are giving a gift of a tiny bit of freedom to your future self. Do that repeatedly, and those tiny future gifts can change your family tree forever.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">The Bottom Line<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">Flipping is truly a great way to build capital and start your real estate journey. However, I would encourage you to change the way you look at BRRRR and analysis if you are looking for long-term wealth and FIRE. That BRRRR might not look like a great deal today, but five or 10 years from now, you are very unlikely to regret keeping and depreciating that asset. You can always sell a property in the future if it doesn\u2019t work out, but once you sell it, it\u2019s gone forever.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">It might seem counterintuitive, but in real estate, you get wealthy by\u00a0<\/span><em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">not\u00a0<\/span><\/em><span data-preserver-spaces=\"true\">selling. Be patient, give it some time, and enjoy the passive fruits of your labor in the not-so-distant future.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"hero-block_62df1a82bfc88\" class=\"first:mt-0 hero-block py-4    has-background has-slate-200-background-color has-text-color has-theme-gold-color\">\n<div class=\" flex flex-wrap lg:flex-nowrap max-w-screen-xl mx-auto px-4 relative lg:items-center \">\n<div class=\"relative z-30 w-full \">\n<main class=\"py-4\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"has-slate-800-color has-text-color has-large-font-size\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:800\">The Real Estate Podcast<\/p>\n<p class=\"my-3 md:my-5 lg:my-8 has-slate-900-color has-text-color\" style=\"font-size:16px\">Want to build long-term wealth through real estate investing? In this podcast, you\u2019ll get a breakdown of strategies that work for different niches and experience levels. 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